valve stem seals and oil consumption

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Anybody had lowered oil consumption after replacing stem seals? I did a couple 6.9s years ago to try to lower consumption with no change.

My 7.3 has been using some oil for along time now and the amount has risen sharply in the last couple years. This has been with very little use of the pickup. Has classic valve stem seal leak symptoms....smoke after idling for a long time, or smoking after going down hill for a few miles. Smells like oil.

Oil consumption was about a qt/1000....then qt/500. In the last thousand miles it has used 1 qt/100 miles.

Compression is low and has been for the 200k that I have used it. Blowby is LOTS....just like it was 10 years ago. Awhile back it started smoking anytime it had any load on it (oil smoke) and I found that the oil drain from the turbo was blocked (kinked hose). Fixing this got rid of the smoke under load, but NO change in oil consumption. It really should be rebuilt at this point, but don't want to put that kind of money/effort into a truck that sits as much as this one does.
 

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Anybody had lowered oil consumption after replacing stem seals? I did a couple 6.9s years ago to try to lower consumption with no change.

My 7.3 has been using some oil for along time now and the amount has risen sharply in the last couple years. This has been with very little use of the pickup. Has classic valve stem seal leak symptoms....smoke after idling for a long time, or smoking after going down hill for a few miles. Smells like oil.

Oil consumption was about a qt/1000....then qt/500. In the last thousand miles it has used 1 qt/100 miles.

Compression is low and has been for the 200k that I have used it. Blowby is LOTS....just like it was 10 years ago. Awhile back it started smoking anytime it had any load on it (oil smoke) and I found that the oil drain from the turbo was blocked (kinked hose). Fixing this got rid of the smoke under load, but NO change in oil consumption. It really should be rebuilt at this point, but don't want to put that kind of money/effort into a truck that sits as much as this one does.

CDR is clean?

If it's due for a rebuild anyway, you might dump some Lucas into it. (2qts max in an IDI). Walmart sells a SuperTech knockoff for a little less money than Lucas. It might help you get a bit more life out of it with lower oil consumption.
 

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Time for a re-ring. I tried the seals w/o any change to oil usage. Cylinders still had cross hatching so I just ball honed. Worked great after that with no oil loss. I replaced all bearings except cam, used bore scope ad they 'looked' good. Did replace pistons, bushings, lifters & pushrods. Replaced rockers in the past when they were cheap on ebay. Lifters have needle bearings, not sleeve bearings. Ebay was cheap back then for good parts, overpriced now.
 

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300ish but fluctuates somewhat.

I have seen it as low as 250 and as high as 325. and always pretty even cyl to cyl. I have suspected for quite awhile that the rings might be sticky in it (put probably 125-150k miles worth of 50/50 wmo through it). I have noticed that it will start quite a bit better after pulling heavy.....haven't towed more than 10k with it for a couple years. Maybe I need to load it up good and go burn a couple tanks of diesel through it.

engine has 390k on it and been turboed and intercooled since about 200k.
 
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Bad or missing valve stem seals won't cause that much consumption. Check to see if the turbo is leaking oil. If it' not the engine is due for a rebuild.
 

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Wasn't really looking for the valve stem seals to fix all of the consumption. But something has changed with very few miles (sitting for months at a time) and it shows symptoms of leaking valve stem seals that it never did before.
 

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300ish but fluctuates somewhat.

I have seen it as low as 250 and as high as 325. and always pretty even cyl to cyl. I have suspected for quite awhile that the rings might be sticky in it (put probably 125-150k miles worth of 50/50 wmo through it). I have noticed that it will start quite a bit better after pulling heavy.....haven't towed more than 10k with it for a couple years. Maybe I need to load it up good and go burn a couple tanks of diesel through it.

engine has 390k on it and been turboed and intercooled since about 200k.
Best plan so far.
 

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Talked to a guy the other day who pulled a load the day before with his 24v cummins (o2 manual truck). Couldn't get over 55 with it...….wide open.

That is kind of load I need to pull with this thing...….will get results one way or another.
 

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Talked to a guy the other day who pulled a load the day before with his 24v cummins (o2 manual truck). Couldn't get over 55 with it...….wide open.

That is kind of load I need to pull with this thing...….will get results one way or another.

******' from a Cummins guy, it might have been a load of BS!!:rotflmao
 

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If you think the rings are coked up get some Kano Labs Kreen and run a treatment with it.
Kano has some good industrial products & you can purchase straight from the manufacturer in Nashville if you are a 'business'.
They will send you discounts about once a month.
 

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If you think the rings are coked up get some Kano Labs Kreen and run a treatment with it.

Have you personally had good results with it? I ran a batch through my old gasser but it was a pretty clean engine already. I've often considering trying it in my F350.
 

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