So what did you do with your truck today?

I used my truck to play my favorite game of "Jeremy gets stupid" (I named it after myself). I found an old dirt bike that I just "had "to have. So I drove about 110 miles east to pick it up. It's a 1972 Suzuki TC125. I had one for two hours short of a week back in "02 or "03. Another guy insisted that he had to have it and wouldn't take no for an answer so he ended up with it. He skipped town still owing me $25, but I had already gotten more for it than I had paid, so I wasn't completely upset. I regretted getting rid of the first one and have been wanting another one for several years. It's the only bike that I've ever owned with a high/low range so it's col to me. It's even the same year as the first one was. I only had to pay $100 so the fact that it needs some work doesn't bother me. I also put 14.4 gallons in the front (only) tank on my on my truck. Since I didn't have any issues with it running, I'm assuming that the shower head is still in good shape.

Return trip from last day of hunting season I stopped just prior to crossing into Pa to take advantage of MD lower fuel prices. My normal fuel up station is a "mom/pop" place however they don't have "pay at the pump" capabilities, it was raining and they have no roof over the diesel pump, so I pushed a little closer to pa\md line. Pulled into an unfamiliar station and circling the pumps trying to locate the one with small nozzel, and there it is. Scanned my credit card, inserted the nozzel, squeezed the handle and set the flow for auto shut-off when full. Instead of standing there waiting, I took the opportunity to do a quick walk checking tires and such. When I heard the handle "snap", I proceeded to add every drop that could fit into the tank and that's when I noticed the foam! It was RED, my eyes immediately went to the pump and it clearly said "off road", I simply never noticed! $2.27 / gal, cheap fuel and I was sweating the remaining miles to home...

catbird7 said:

Return trip from last day of hunting season I stopped just prior to crossing into Pa to take advantage of MD lower fuel prices. My normal fuel up station is a "mom/pop" place however they don't have "pay at the pump" capabilities, it was raining and they have no roof over the diesel pump, so I pushed a little closer to pa\md line. Pulled into an unfamiliar station and circling the pumps trying to locate the one with small nozzel, and there it is. Scanned my credit card, inserted the nozzel, squeezed the handle and set the flow for auto shut-off when full. Instead of standing there waiting, I took the opportunity to do a quick walk checking tires and such. When I heard the handle "snap", I proceeded to add every drop that could fit into the tank and that's when I noticed the foam! It was RED, my eyes immediately went to the pump and it clearly said "off road", I simply never noticed! $2.27 / gal, cheap fuel and I was sweating the remaining miles to home...

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Law breaker!

I did that once. Sweated until the fuel was all burned up.

Thing is, the whole thing is supposed to be based on the fact that road taxes are not charged on that fuel... But the fuel price was EXACTLY the same as the non-off-road fuel.

Either taxes were actually paid on it, or the station is ripping people off.

Usually the "off road" pump is in a completely different location. As far as I can recall that's the only time ever saw off road fuel on the opposing side of normal diesel.

catbird7 said:

hunting...rain.....

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Spends a week outdoors getting primal then doesn't want to get rained on pumping fuel. . You should own some locking gas caps if you're going to dance that close to the fire again.

catbird7 said:

Usually the "off road" pump is in a completely different location. As far as I can recall that's the only time ever saw off road fuel on the opposing side of normal diesel.

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We have a station around here that there are two pumps one right after the other. I'd imagine it would be quite easy to make that mistake!

I've seen it too. It probably happens more often at a small gas station, in a more rural area.

Selahdoor said:

I did that once. Sweated until the fuel was all burned up.

Thing is, the whole thing is supposed to be based on the fact that road taxes are not charged on that fuel... But the fuel price was EXACTLY the same as the non-off-road fuel.

Either taxes were actually paid on it, or the station is ripping people off.

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They say you never really get rid of the red dye once it is in a system. It is one thing you never want to get caught having in your fuel tank. They will fine you from the day you bought the truck. There are construction business here that never run red dye just so they never have to worry about it being put in the wrong outfit.

I planned on telling them the truth.

But I thought about telling them that I had dumped a bunch of ATF in there...

The color itself has nothing to do with it. It's a chemical reaction on a litmus paper. So even if you said it's atf, it would test showing "off-road."

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The red dye is not only a color, but it has a specific chemical composition.

It takes a 20 times dilution to make it undetectable. I would run the tank as low as you dare.... even empty if you want. Fill it completely full of green diesel. I’d do the completely full, completely empty cycle a couple of times. Once you have run 30 or 40 gallons through, I would change any fuel filter in the system.

I would keep the receipt, so that if anything did come of it, you could show you were at an unfamiliar station away from your home and made a mistake.

I know people that run red in their pickup all the time and haven’t gotten caught. My luck, I don’t even like driving a diesel powered vehicle tithe station when I fill a can with red diesel or even kerosene. I normally drive my gasser pickup. The 10,000 dollar fine isn’t worth a few cents a gallon.

79jasper said:

The color itself has nothing to do with it. It's a chemical reaction on a litmus paper. So even if you said it's atf, it would test showing "off-road."

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snicklas said:

The red dye is not only a color, but it has a specific chemical composition.

It takes a 20 times dilution to make it undetectable. I would run the tank as low as you dare.... even empty if you want. Fill it completely full of green diesel. I’d do the completely full, completely empty cycle a couple of times. Once you have run 30 or 40 gallons through, I would change any fuel filter in the system.

I would keep the receipt, so that if anything did come of it, you could show you were at an unfamiliar station away from your home and made a mistake.

I know people that run red in their pickup all the time and haven’t gotten caught. My luck, I don’t even like driving a diesel powered vehicle tithe station when I fill a can with red diesel or even kerosene. I normally drive my gasser pickup. The 10,000 dollar fine isn’t worth a few cents a gallon.

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Glad that I had already decided to tell the truth.

I did run those tanks empty and fill them up, several times. I also did keep the receipt in the truck, just in case for just that reason.

Had the first day warm enough that I could stand touching metal in over a month so I took advantage and put new shocks on the "King Ranch". Nothing fancy just Gasmatics but feels a good bit smoother than the (who knows how old) old ones.