Hydrostop review? whats your oppinion?|||| Has anyone attempted to make there own?|||

[jay22day]

So ive seen a good amount of guys running the hydrostop system.


How do you guys running these like them?


Why the upgrade? Not satisfied with the stock brakes?

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Stacking topics here since its on the same kit/part:


Has anyone made there own unit?


It obviously runs its pressure off the power steering, i see the units are like $700-800$ so i thought id ask, as i don't know much about them yet, but their popularity seems to be growing.

 

[FoolhardyIDI]

I have had both systems. The Vacuum boosted systems and Hydro boosted. When it cam to stopping it seamed like the hydro system could stop me faster as compared to the vacuum system. I would also get better feed back from the brake pedal with the hydro system as compared to the vacuum system. I plan on upgrading my system on my Dually to the hydro system when I have the funds.

 

[cpdenton]

Hydroboost is a completely different world than vacuum assist on our diesel trucks. They give much better pedal feel than a vacuum booster. Also, stopping power is much improved. Gary will chime in I'm sure with the PSI available to hydroboost users.

Now, as far as building your own unit...the ones for our trucks, comparable year f-superduty units, are not 7-800 dollars. More like 250 at the parts stores. My feeling, if they make a system that bolts in and woks right the first time, why re-invent the wheel. The parts are out there and available salvage too. They do not only come on diesels either. F-superduty hydroboost units from a 460 truck work just as well.

 

[jay22day]

Thanks hardyidi, did you tow some weight with the two different system? if so did you see a dramatic difference when doing so?

seems like a good upgrade, especially if the trucks is used to pull heavy loads, i do have a exhaust brake but i tihnk im going to make my own hydroboost setup for the truck, come summer.

 

[79jasper]

Go drive a truck (ford or chevy. Dodge brakes suck) with hydroboost brakes.
Immediately you'll know what all the ranting and raving is about.

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[FoolhardyIDI]

With the Hydro boost system I hauled an off shore speed boat for a racing team. It was on a 1996 K2500 Suburban. Always had no problem stopping with the load. Plus the trailer had electric brakes to help assist with braking. Also did a lot of hauling vehicles on a double trailer with a 1999 F350 PSD with the vacuum brake system. Was always a bit sketchy coming to a stop. Especially if you need to do it in a hurry.

 

[icanfixall]

The vacuum brake booster applies around 1000 lbs of braking hydraulic pressure in our systems for stopping. the hydroboost braking system runs off the power steering hydraulic pump and supplies about 2200 lbs of pressure on the hydraulic brakes. Now thats more than double the power for stopping our rigs. We don't need or use all that available pressure most of the time... But its there when we need it. I prefer the hydroboost master cylinder because it has the larger bore thats 1 5/16 inch. It can move more fluid into the brake system per pump of the brakes. Remember the brakes are a closed system. They will only take a certain amount of fluid to push the brakes closed on the drums or rotors. But you have more available to do that. The larger master cylinder actually "repairs" the sinking brake peddle feeling after we come to a complete stop. You know the feeling of creeping forwards at a signal. Whats happening in the system during this is the vacuum assist can't push enough fluid to the usually out of adjust rears. So the fronts are doing all the stopping. Thats not good when towing. It also wears out the front brakes much quicker. So as your sitting at a signal with your foot on the brake peddle the fluid is still trying to fill the rear wheel cylinders that are so far out of adjustment. the peddle sinks and you loose the front clamping brake effect. Manually adjusting the rear brakes is one way to help but. Improving to the hydroboost is the real fix.

 

[Greg5OH]

also FYI, the 05 super duty MC is 1.5" bore! i love the way mine feels.

 

[jay22day]

Hydroboost is a completely different world than vacuum assist on our diesel trucks. They give much better pedal feel than a vacuum booster. Also, stopping power is much improved. Gary will chime in I'm sure with the PSI available to hydroboost users.

Now, as far as building your own unit...the ones for our trucks, comparable year f-superduty units, are not 7-800 dollars. More like 250 at the parts stores. My feeling, if they make a system that bolts in and woks right the first time, why re-invent the wheel. The parts are out there and available salvage too. They do not only come on diesels either. F-superduty hydroboost units from a 460 truck work just as well.

Was hydroboost a stock option on these trucks from ford? i see chevy had it on a few vehicles stock.

The vacuum brake booster applies around 1000 lbs of braking hydraulic pressure in our systems for stopping. the hydroboost braking system runs off the power steering hydraulic pump and supplies about 2200 lbs of pressure on the hydraulic brakes. Now thats more than double the power for stopping our rigs. We don't need or use all that available pressure most of the time... But its there when we need it. I prefer the hydroboost master cylinder because it has the larger bore thats 1 5/16 inch. It can move more fluid into the brake system per pump of the brakes. Remember the brakes are a closed system. They will only take a certain amount of fluid to push the brakes closed on the drums or rotors. But you have more available to do that. The larger master cylinder actually "repairs" the sinking brake peddle feeling after we come to a complete stop. You know the feeling of creeping forwards at a signal. Whats happening in the system during this is the vacuum assist can't push enough fluid to the usually out of adjust rears. So the fronts are doing all the stopping. Thats not good when towing. It also wears out the front brakes much quicker. So as your sitting at a signal with your foot on the brake peddle the fluid is still trying to fill the rear wheel cylinders that are so far out of adjustment. the peddle sinks and you loose the front clamping brake effect. Manually adjusting the rear brakes is one way to help but. Improving to the hydroboost is the real fix.

now thats a he|l of a hydroboost tutorial! thanks icanfixall!! very informative as always

talk about a significant improvement in line pressure

 

[towcat]

if you are using your truck at or beyond it's rated capacity, you need to do the conversion. there's not debate there. you will be able to stop with confidence.
if you aren't, don't do the conversion. your brakes are now more sensitive and there is little room between application and lockup.
it's that simple.

 

[FORDF250HDXLT]

i always like to ay this:

swapping in hydroboost from vacuum assist brakes,adds more stopping power than one of the big 3 turbo kits adds hp to the engine.
(no smoke.im not making that up......well ok.maybe i made the saying up lol but it's fact!)

yeah im with the converted! it's no contest better.if you even think you need increased stopping power,then hydroboost conversion is the first place to look.

the 87-97 f-super duty (f450) sport all the parts you need for direct bolt in swap.4 hour job.basic shade tree skill level required: 3 or 4 on a scale of 1-10.

 

[jay22day]

Think it would be a PITA to mod a new style (99+) one to work on our trucks? i only ask because they seem more available second hand.

 

[tbrumm]

The hardest part of the HB conversion is getting the correct brake pedal, or modifying the brake pedal to get the "pin" in the correct location in order to line up with the HB operating rod. Here are a couple of threads to look through.
http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?63819-Holy-stopping-power-Batman!!!-Hydroboost-installed!/page4
http://www.oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?63330-Now-I-have-the-OBS-hydroboost-pedal!/page5

 

[icanfixall]

For those with the auto trans rigs its simple to remove the peddle and install the hydro boost peddle. Just remove a clip and slide out the brake peddle shaft. To change the peddle on the standard trans rigs you MUST remove the complete brake and clutch peddle hangers and shaft. They are nutted on each end of the peddle shaft. You can't remove the shaft either direction too so it all comes out.

 

[KZF250]

I'm sure at some point I will be looking into this upgrade...But, since the truck this one replaced was drums all around with no power anything, the honeymoon isn't quite over yet.