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I'm about to move my setup out of dads barn and into a corner of my new shop. I think ill have to add another pump.

So what kind of power steering pumps do you guys use for transfer pumps?? I have an old ps pump from a 1970 Torino I though about using but it doesn't have a suction line so that probably won't work.
 

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Does it kinda look like this....
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I use this type, only catch is I gravity feed into the top, without the cap/dipstick.
I have seen some people weld something on top.
It's a cheap pump, but I think still needs to be gravity fed.....
 

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Close, but it looks like that. I might try to pull it apart and try to tap the inlet so I can run a hose to it
 

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My set up doesnt allow for gravity feed. I want this pump to pull the oil from the tank outside into my shop to the holding tank
 

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ANY positive displacement pump will pull some vacuum, it just has to be primed first. If you could epoxy a inlet to the filler cap it should work as long as it isn't trying to pull a long way uphill. Mine came from a 97F150, has a nice 1/2" inlet hose barb and a 3/8th pressure line that I hose barbed into.
 

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I know which one your talking about. My 94 grand marquis had one like that. Might just go to a junkyard and grab one then
 

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A quick bit of information for those that don't know, almost all pumps designed specifically to move oil of some sort for whatever purpose are positive displacement pumps. Any pump that is designed to produce more than 20 or 30 PSI will be some sort of positive displacement pump. While a lot of modern automotive electric gasoline fuel pumps are positive displacement, they are still unfit for oil transfer due to the high rpm's that they operate at. A positive displacement pump differs from other pumps by the mechanism that actually moves the fluid. Positive displacement pumps have a chamber that continuously decreases in volume forcing the fluid through the outlet. In a positive displacement pump if the fluid cannot move out of the pump something must give. Due to this design it enables them to also be capable of drawing fluid into itself to a certain degree depending on the efficiency of the pump. A good pump with low tolerances will draw a pretty decent vacuum but to do so they must be primed first. Since the fluid has no choice but to leave the pump it will create a vacuum once that fluid has been displaced that will draw more fluid into the pump. If they are not primed, air is quite thin and can easily slip past the tolerances inside the pump and it will sit idling away doing nothing. Same can be said with a worn pump that has loose tolerances. Getting one to self prime while trying to pull a 3 or 4 ft head will be nearly impossible, and even a worn pump that has been primed may not pull more than a few ft of head.

For those that already know, don't think I'm trying to be patronizing, just like to put the info out for those reading that don't know.
 

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Good info & point Josh.
Since many of us, (me included) learn from doing, its nice to know ahead of time, what works or doesn't work.
This whole idea of using wmo as fuel is a on-going learning process.
 

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I use a drill and a modified sbc oil pump. If I put about 8-12oz of oil in it to prime, I can pull oil from an IBC tote about 30ft away uphill. Since I use a garden hose, it can't handle the suction and it partially collapses making the transfer a slower process.
 

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I can't go back to a drill. I want to flip a switch and walk away. This is my current pump/filter/center fuge set up
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I wasn't talking about the prime mover as much as the pump I was using...Chevy oil pumps typically run very cheap brand new and only take minimal modifications...
 

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I can't go back to a drill. I want to flip a switch and walk away. This is my current pump/filter/center fuge set up
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I very much want to get away from my drill/sbc transfer pump... its the only thing left in our system that typically makes a mess of things.

-Chris
 
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