custom powersteering

IDIoit · Feb 20, 2017

does anyone have numbers of volume these stock ford pumps put out?

I want to delete the stock pump and run a TCI style mini PS pump.
with a remote reservoir.

mounting is a non issue.
will be running 2 v-belts.
solid mounted alternator and PS pump
with tensioners.

im thinking about using something like this.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/KRC-ESP-POWER-STEER-PUMP,280737.html

don't bother asking why.
if youre following my build thread, youll see eventually

cpdenton · Feb 20, 2017

Found this.

The Ford CII pump (F150-350, Bronco) flows 1.5 gallons/minute at 740 psi. The pressure relief is in the pump and set at 1400 to 1500 psi.

The Ford Saginaw pump (E100-350) flows 1.8 gallons/minute at 620 psi and its relief valve is set at 1350 to 1450 psi.

IDIoit · Feb 20, 2017

cpdenton said:
Found this.

The Ford CII pump (F150-350, Bronco) flows 1.5 gallons/minute at 740 psi. The pressure relief is in the pump and set at 1400 to 1500 psi.

The Ford Saginaw pump (E100-350) flows 1.8 gallons/minute at 620 psi and its relief valve is set at 1350 to 1450 psi.

Thanks buddy! I tried searching, but I may be wee-todd-did
this item should fit perfectly infront of the oil cooler.
may need to re-make the water inlet housing.
getting excited about this one...

cpdenton · Feb 20, 2017

Me too.

I found that in a thread from 2002. Third post down. It was dumb luck.

kuskoal · Feb 21, 2017

It's late, you sparked my curiosity and I don't wanna read your build thread (tonight. Tomorrow at lunch is a go

)

But the Saginaw pumps are good enough for crawlers running full hydro and almost decent enough for rear steer(a little slow), why the need for such volume?! The West Texas mod and a smaller pulley will do great for almost anything. Also a bolt in with the van bracket

IDIoit · Feb 21, 2017

not really the need for volume.
I have the need for a compact, remote reservoir, and I need to mount it low.
im running hydroboost and steering so I don't want to go low on the flow!

im deleting the conventional belt system and making brackets for both.

kuskoal · Feb 21, 2017

You'd be fine with the Saginaw pumps, the West Texas mod and a k3500? Pump should be good for it.

Why lower than it already is? Are you building some sorta spaceship? I'm curious now.

IDIoit · Feb 21, 2017

yes. spaceship with a twist.
the only Saginaw pumps ive seen have a reservoir
I want a remote reservoir.
http://www.oilburners.net/threads/a-project-i-call-thee-wee-*******.70696/page-7#post-939511

ifrythings · Feb 21, 2017

Have you looked into the superduty pumps? Some use the c2 pumps but others have a c3 I believe pump which puts out a bit higher pressure and flow rate and have a remote res.

kuskoal · Feb 21, 2017

Some sag punps throw out 3.1-3.5 gpm and 1100-1450 psi depending on the pump. I think PSC has a remote can for the sag pumps with the resi mount

ifrythings · Feb 21, 2017

This guy did something like your talking about http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1476240-hydroboost-conversion-88f350.html#post16971779

He hasn't got back about pics yet.

Dieselcrawler · Feb 22, 2017

Any Chevy van will have remote resovoir.

IDIoit · Feb 23, 2017

I settled on this lastnight.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400429950402?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

in my infinite medicinal intake, ive been pondering the tightening system.
ive decided to go against using tensioner pulleys.
I will be using heims for the adjusters.
now to wait for these parts to come in,
and get them installed.
will have to remake the water intake housing.
not a big deal.

ifrythings · Feb 23, 2017

Some info on the ford C2 pumps

HBC-JX, HBC-KK
Pressure relief 1400-1530psi
Minimum flow @740psi , 1.4gpm fluid @170F

HBC-JY
Pressure relief 1450-1530psi
Minimum flow @740psi , 1.5gpm fluid @170F

HBC-LC
Pressure relief 1300-1480psi
Minimum flow @740psi , 0.95gpm fluid @170F

Note, flow depends on engine rpm and pulley drive size

I'm not sure how you tell the model of your pump but these are what I found for the C2 power steering pumps.

Some info on C3 pumps used on the newer trucks

2.8-3.2gpm @150psi fluid @165-175F Engine at idle

1.4gpm @750psi fluid @165-175F Engine at idle
Pressure relief 1750-1850psi

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