Got a 94 4x4 F250 that has been sitting for about 8 months

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I am so excited about this truck as i have been wanting a diesel 4x4 ever since i was a kid. I traded a 1976 chevy silverado for this one. Its a 1994 F250 4x4 Off Road extended cab long bed with the 7.3L IDI pretty much my dream truck!! I havent been able to start it up yet as it has no batteries. The bad is the transmission is toasted no forward gears. I checked the oil and have no coolant in the oil and it is black as night just like it should be. The coolant in the rad is to low to check but in the throw up bucket is nice and green. Is there anything i should be on the lookout for with this truck? This is my little project to make my dream happen. BTW the chevy i swapped it for had not ran in 6 years and was not worth the time to fix. This F250 has 231k on the clock btw and has been sitting since the trans went south 8 months ago. I am sorry for the long first post but this truck means alot to me and i sure hope to bring it back to road worthy shape with a little work. Any helpful advice and tips for things to look at would be a huge help and greatly appreciated.
 

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Go with optima yellow top batteries and replace the hot cable with a deka brand cable. Remove and clean both ends of all the ground cables. Clean bright connections, don't half ass it. This ensures the starter will receive full amps from the batteries and therefore turn the engine at optimum rpm for a good ignition.

Check all eight glow plugs with a continuity light. Clip it on the hot battery terminal and then touch the center of each plug with the probe end. If the plug is functional the continuity light will illuminate, if it's burned out the light remains extinguished. Burned out plug is an open circuit. Carefully remove the unserviceable plugs with a 3/8 " six point, deep well socket. Break the torque then spray the threads with penetrating oil and slowly work the plug loose. If it starts to bind do not force, just work it in and out while adding more penetrating oil. The oil will help ease out a swollen element, just be patient and you won't break off the element. Replace them with beru glow plugs only please. You'll regret it soon if you use any other brand. If all eight plugs are functional and the relay is working your wait to start light will remain illuminated for a longer period when the engine is cold and shorter when it is warm.

If all is well the engine will start within three turns. Excessive cranking to achieve engine start at this point is usually caused by air intrusion of the fuel system. There are multiple points of entry for air intrusion, but most often it's because of leaky return lines. As the return lines cool down after engine shutoff they will create negative pressure thus sucking in air through the same points of leakage. Repair the leaks, by doing so you will also eliminate the air intrusion into the fuel system. If there aren't any leaks then check the fuel pressure created by the fuel lift pump. This is accomplished through the schrader valve that is located on the fuel filter head. The pressure reading will pulsate, but should produce a minimum of six psi. Any less requires removal and replacement of the fuel lift pump.

The injector pump from the factory is painted grey along with the rest of the engine. That's how you will know if it's original. If it is, be prepared to remove and replace it soon. They are rated to have a service life of 100k miles. Mine lasted 300k miles before it started to go. I replaced it at 330k. When you do, unbolt it from the timing gear through the forward access panel located on the front of the timing gear cover. Clock the installed replacement pump by lining up the stamped line on the pump flange with the stamped line on the mounting surface then tighten the flange bolts. This won't be perfect timing but it's a good starting point, good enough for the engine to idle. If you're happy with how it idles and how it operates under load then leave it there. If not, then advancing the timing is by rotating the pump toward the passenger side and retarding is by rotating toward the driver side, as you face the front of the engine. If you want precision be prepared to search for a unicorn. Took me two years to find the correct equipment to accomplish a precise timing adjustment. Never adjust the timing with the engine running. Doing so will cause damage. Readjust the throttle position sensor, or whatever you'd like to call it, with a volt/ohm meter or else the automatic transmission will not shift properly. Leave the lines loose at the injectors to bleed out the air, tighten them individually as you see fuel seeping out of the fittings. It's easier with a bump switch connected to your starter solenoid, but keep your power disconnected from the glow plug relay as an added precaution, until all lines are purged of air.

If the operating engine begins to sputter and cut off at 1/4 of a tank of fuel it's because the pickup tube, or shower head, whatever you wish to call it, has broken off and fallen into the tank. Remove the tank, remove the sender assembly then add a section of 3/8 fuel line, with a bird notch at the end that will come in contact with the bottom of the tank, to the metal tube of the sender. This replaces the pickup tube and allows access to the entire capacity of your fuel tank.

If the bottom of your fuel tank feels like it has a coat of slime, it has microbiological contamination. This will cause constant replacement of the fuel filter until it is eliminated. Pour a gallon of isopropyl alcohol into the fuel tank and let sit over night, dump it out the next day and blow it out with compressed air before reinstalling. Consider adding fuel treatment specifically for microbial contamination, to eliminate possible contamination between the fuel tank and the fuel filter element.

Excessive engine oil consumption or excessive amounts of oil within the air intake ducting is indicative of a faulty crankcase depression relief valve. Remove and replace with a new or serviceable valve.

Make sure to check the level of sca additive within the coolant in order to prevent cylinder cavitation. Or just add two bottles of sca at the radiator cap for good measure. It's available from napa. Don't bother going anywhere else unless you enjoy a lengthy exercise in futility.

There's a **** ton more to look out for, but nothing that's rocket surgery or brain science. Or whatever description of overly difficult tasks you prefer. I'm willing to add more to this thread because I'm in Kabul for three more months otherwise I'd be replacing my power steering gearbox and pump along with the associated pressure and return lines. Never a dull moment with a 360k 92 turbo idi. Enjoy your idi and remember, never buy commy replacement parts. If you don't have the scratch just wait until you do. Your down time will stay the same either way, but you won't be fixing the same **** twice. Or more, if you're just sadistic. Later fellas.
 

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Big emphasis on replacing glow plugs with Motorcraft/Beru. The PO of my truck used the dreaded Autolites and two or three needed a lot of penetrating oil and patience. I would recommend spraying each plug with Kroil/PB Blaster the night before you intend to remove them. And be aware that if the glow plug controller cycles on and off rapidly after only staying on a few seconds that you most likely have some bad glow plugs, a bad connection from the GP harness to the plug, or a bad GP controller.
 

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If you have to stand with both feet on the brake pedal while simultaneously pulling on the steering wheel as if trying to deadlift 400 pounds in order for your truck to come to a complete stop, you might have a dead or dieing vacuum pump. Usually, but not always the low vacuum sensor will activate the brake warning indicator light in its dim setting. You will notice that it will just illuminate at a brighter setting when you engage the parking brake foot lever. The brake warning indicator light will also illuminate in the same exact manner when the float sensor inside the master cylinder reservoir reaches a critical low fluid level. Usually though if the rest of your brake system is otherwise mechanically and hydraulically sound, there aren't any leaking or collapsed vacuum lines, and your brake booster diaphragm is not leaking, the culprit is a failed or failing vacuum pump. Another symptom of a faulty pump would be that your hvac will only function in the windshield defrosting mode. This is a failsafe for lack of vacuum needed to actuate the servos that operate the ducting doors. Remove and replace the vacuum pump with a motocraft brand or just go on and buy three of the commy brand ones and become an expert vacuum pump specialist! You will go through all three in less than a year. Oh and the pulley will have to be reused every time, did I mention it's pressed onto the tapered shaft? Use a pitman arm puller while the pump is still bolted on if you don't have a bench vise. If you're wondering why a vacuum pump it's because Diesel engines do not use an intake throttle valve to control engine rpm. That's how standard gasoline engines create vacuum. It's the byproduct of introducing a restriction to the flow of intake air. Diesels control engine rpm by regulating the flow of fuel. There is no throttle valve, butterfly, plate whatever you refer to it as, on a Diesel engine thus no way to create vacuum without a vacuum pump. I'm not a know it all I just love to fix **** and the best way I know to fix **** is by understanding how the hell it works.

Teach your sons how to be MEN! Teach them how to use their hands as well as their intellect. Masculinity is not offensive and if it does offend someone they can kick rocks and go be a ***** that pays guys like me to do what they can't. Get rid of that brain atrophying **** box that your sons spend countless hours on and get them under the hood. Let them find the tool and guide them through the process as they do the work. Even if it means that it takes longer to do the job. They will love you so damn much for it! It's never too late! I love you dad and thank you so much for teaching me. Time to go get stronger at the gym. Thanks to all you men for reading my rant. Later fellas.
 

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You have to be a vet rsaltaresjr ,because you talk and have about the same look at things as i do. I did two tours in Iraq myself. I am the same as you in the regard i dont spend money on cheap commy bs because we know how that turns out too well. I am new to deisels even though i have always wanted one. I have been spinning wrenches all of my life i have built 4 racecars and restored a 1966 Galaxie 2 door with the 335hp 390. I had a dad just like you did, and i am so very thankful that he instilled the values and time he spent teaching me how to work with my hands. He was also a vet 2nd Rangers so you can imagine how my childhood was. I am pretty excited about this old truck even if it looks like a rigger didnt load it out right for a drop lol. It is just a starting point for me to get into oilburners and learn them as well as i know gas engines. It shouldnt take much at all to get it going again it aint been sitting too long. The hot battery cable is corroded as hell and has to be thrown out and two optimas are the first things i need and clean off the ground cables really good. I am gonna pull the glow plugs and replace them also. The engine looks like its in good shape to me for what it is and trust me i have seen some real skid marks under a hood. The main thing i was terrified of was cavitation before i got it. I traded for it with only looking at some pictures. The oil and coolant look good no oil anywhere the throw up bucket just needs a new hose and flush the coolant out and change it for new and its good to go. There aint any condensation or water in the injection pump or in the oil at all and no metal so that sure helps a bit. The big thing is the dang trans is doa! I plan on doing the rebuild myself. I have done several automatics before i have done an AODE and a C4,C6 and a Th400 chevy. I think i can manage that fairly uneventfully. Thanks for all the help man i really appreciate you taking the time to help point me in the right direction.
 

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I am indeed a Navy veteran, please don't hold that against me, but if so it's ok, this squid has a thick skin. I am also a brother of a Marine, grandson of two army veterans of our greatest generation and son of an army veteran. I have two sons that are men in training and two daughters that are women in training. My wife trains them full time and I do what I can when I'm not in some foreign **** hole earning a living so they can grow up as God intended. When I am home we all hunt, fish, grow, raise, maintain and repair on 25 acres that we Own. I say this not to be a braggart, but to praise the lord in describing his blessings even onto an undeserving foul mouthed sinner that is yet saved by the blood of the lamb, the only man who ever walked the earth without sin, who lived and died for us all, our heavenly father's son Jesus Christ.

You sound like a can do type of fella I can be friends with. I do enjoy like minded banter. I will pass on any knowledge I can to anyone that asks for it. And I'll do my best to not go overboard with my rants. No promises though as I suffer from **** diarrhea, which very easily, and annoyingly, lends itself well to the written, or in this case typed, word.

Oh and if you ever get around to replacing the cooling system thermostat be advised that you will not be able to find it from any of the parts houses. It's Only available from the stealership or if you're lucky from eBay. I'm sure one of these other fine mechanics has the part number stashed somewhere. It's an oddball looking little thermostat and the part number the counter guy comes up with is always going to be the one for the power smoke. No matter how many times he insists it's the one for your idi.

Ok then, it's midnight here in Kabul and I've got to be up and at em at zero dark thirty. Later fellas.
 

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It is also recommended to buy a Motorcraft water pump if you need/decide to replace it. And I am pretty sure that Dorman makes the Motorcraft vacuum pumps so just buy a Dorman and save some cash.
 

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@OffRoad94 I know what you mean about wanting a diesel from childhood. I grew up listening for the sound of a 7.3 N/A diesel as my dad got closer to being home. There is just something about these engines--wish I could explain it but it's more of a feeling than a thought. Good luck with yours.
 

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You and me are brothers in more than one way my man! I am gonna go on a long time here so grab your socks lol! I am a born again Christian also, i was very fortunate to be born into the God loving and America loving family that i was just as you were i assume. I am just a ex Army grunt that did what just about every male in our family has done for generations. I live on 14 acres in the middle of nowhere Tx. I am almost exactly like you my friend i love fishing and hunting. We are just blessed to have what we do and dont have much of anything but each other. I cant have any kids of my own, but i have a stepdaughter and the best friend of my life in my wife. I am just an broke down version of my former self now. Being a former Paratrooper in the 505th PIR being disabled is a hard pill to swallow. That and losing both of my parents last year was as bad as anything i have been through. If i didnt have God to carry me through that and knowing that i will be with them again when God calls me home. I cant thank you enough gor responding to my thread i am more than proud to call ya a friend even if ya are a squid lol. You are a great man that answered the call of duty to serve for our freedom just as I have and my and your family has in the past. I will definitely keep you in my prayers brother please be safe and take care ok buddy. I know all the horseshit that goes with the job all to well, but you will look back at it someday and be very proud you did it hopfully you already are. It is hard sometimes being in a third world ******** in the asscrack of the earth but hey some ******* has to do it why not us right???
 

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@OffRoad94 I know what you mean about wanting a diesel from childhood. I grew up listening for the sound of a 7.3 N/A diesel as my dad got closer to being home. There is just something about these engines--wish I could explain it but it's more of a feeling than a thought. Good luck with yours.

Whoa i thought i was just feed too many paint chips as a child lol!! I have always loved these old trucks. One of my best friends had a 94 4x4 off road club cab 7.3L idi and that sucker was so much fun it should have been illegal. I just adore they way the N/A diesels sound its almost other worldly!! Thwy sound so mean and agressive it just makes me giddy like a little kid again when i hear one getting down!!
 

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@OffRoad94 I know what you mean about wanting a diesel from childhood. I grew up listening for the sound of a 7.3 N/A diesel as my dad got closer to being home. There is just something about these engines--wish I could explain it but it's more of a feeling than a thought. Good luck with yours.
Had one with true dual exhaust and glass packs. Loud noises hauling cows through town!!
 

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You guys are right as rain!!! Its just a feeling that nothing else can describe!! Its almost soothing to me to hear an old mechanical non turbo diesel they just make me feel happy inside!! I worked with the City i lived in for years after i got out of the Army and i drove oilburners daily and it just fed the fire of love for them seeing how much true power they have and the sheer durability is something that speaks to me. My truck my look like a rigger puahed it out the bay doors without a proper load out and it hit every tree on the way down but this is my little baby that i will restore into perfect operating condition. Its something that i have always dreamed of owning and now that i finally got one i am on cloud 9!! I just thank God for letting me have it now. I have waited many years for this moment and now its just amazing knowing i have a 7.3L International diesel Ford F250 4x4 offroad! Its just a matter of time and a little bit of work to make it into a workhorse again. I know i aint gonna win ANY RACES or tug wars but this is my little buddy that will get me started into my diesel journey.
 

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